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8 kb, 200x200 No.18812
  1. Buy an ADV anime volume with voice actor commentary.
  2. Shoot yourself
  3. ????
  4. PROFIT!

I'm not kidding. I listened to one and felt 5 years get taken off my life, it's worse than just listening to the dub.

No.18847

>buy

You see where you went wrong, right.

No.18882

>>18847
Yeah it's so much better to steal everything and then complain when good companies go out of business, right?

No.18884
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>>18882

>ADV was a good company

GTFO!

No.18885

You think all the staff involved in production of the anime you watch just do that shit for free? Are you the sort that just likes to bitch about everything, pay nothing for everything, and expect the world delivered to you on a silver plate?

I torrent just as much as the next person but I make sure to put some money into the business as well, any show I like, I buy the DVD or figurines or someshit to support it. These companies are making a gamble that they'll be able to sustain distribution of their anime, and if people don't buy, they go out of business and eventually there's nothing left.

Geneon and ADV both made a ton of content accessible to a large audience for a pretty decent price, and that really is quite a feat if you think about it.

I think one of the biggest problems with torrenting anime as opposed to, say, major box office movies, is that there's much less revenue flowing in because it's a niche market targeted toward a generally more technically-apt audience. So there's more people getting a free ride, no ticket sales to offset that, leading to a higher overhead for production. That of course leads to lower production quality and thus fewer people inclined to buy, especially since a good portion of the paying audience is already well aware of what they're getting before making the purchase thanks to the internet.

If more people buy anime and other such merchandise, these companies that you hate so much will get more money (no shit), which they can put toward making their products better and cheaper, and acquire distribution deals and possibly partnerships with other companies. Want to see the Nanoha movie, in a theater, IN AMERICA? (Of course, insert any full-length anime of your choice there.) How about getting actually good voice actors? Suppose they could get a few people from let's say Futurama to do the dubs, instead of the typical third-rate job that sounds like it was done by the night-shift janitor after he sucked on some helium? Suppose they could hire some people to do some quality control, and fix up some of the amazingly bad tween frames that make everyone look like they have Down's syndrome. Imagine if you could go into a store and find something other than fucking Naurto and Bleach. Or if you could turn on the television and watch the new episode of Angel Beats just a week or two after it aired in Japan.

All of those things take considerably more money than American anime distributors are getting from their fanbase.

(By the way, I would seriously like to know what the fuck is up with Western anime companies not hiring fansubbers. These guys put shit out for free within a few weeks of airdate, so what the hell's the holdup?)

No.18886

By the way, before anyone says it, I'm not that Funimation troll; if every American company goes out of business, it's not like Japan stops making anime, and I usually watch the fansubs anyway because I already have them and they're generally as good if not better quality than the DVD releases. But it would be nice to see some good shows get the kind of attention that Naruto gets.

No.18890

>>18885

Seconded. Pay some frickin' money for your anime, people. I want good artists to be able to make a living doing it so I can watch more.

No.18895

>>18885
What makes you think said companies would actually improve their quality if they had additional financial resources from increased sales?
If more people actually bought stuff that is mediocre at best, for the companies it would mean a lot of people are alright with mediocrity, removing any reason to improve quality.
Your goal is admirable, but I don't see your plans leading to the desired result.

No.18965

>>18885>>18886

I respect your opinion and find some good qualities on it, but you obviously do not understand how the world works. Do you realize the countless number of weeaboo who buy every anime that comes out here, watches the dubs, and are unaware of any anime that the current licensers haven't licensed or mentioned? They are perpetuating shitty horrid VA's because they are content(and sometimes happy) with hacks like vic mignona and greg ayres. There are tons of people who buy anime from companies. I find it a good thing that ADV went out of business, their motto was practically "HAHAHA! THEY'LL BUY ANYTHING!".

I am a buyfag, I buy some, watch some for free. So don't go claiming I'm a fucking leech. Anime is expensive, and a job as a short-order cook doesn't always cut it.

Btw, sadly, it is very unlikely that shows like angel beats will get translated that fast and put on tv, ever. I also hate dubs, all of them. Recently, some companies have been releasing sub-only volumes, and I think that's how it should be. I'd rather watch subs on tv, than watch even a good dub. You know why? No matter how good the dub, you cannot recreate the original characters voices in english.

>>18890 Pretty sure the artists don't see any money from sales over seas, seeing as they already don't see much from sales at home(I can't prove that, but mangaka often make jokes about how little money they make).

No.18970

Please, people, we've already been trough this.

No.19041
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Hello iichan citizens :3
I have reported this thread to be erased so that useless flame wars like this can be avoided since this conversation has already happened in the past.

thank you and move along.

No.19043

>>19041
Eh. I think most of the people on this board have roughly the same sentiments, with a few outliers.

Permasaged for your convenience. It's relevant to the board at least, and there've been far heftier flamewars.

No.19069

>>18965

>Do you realize the countless number of weeaboo who buy every anime that comes out here

This is where I stopped reading. The Videoscan numbers for the vast majority of anime releases are downright pathetic.

But that's what happens with the current generation of entitlement gimme kids we're raising, as vividly demonstrated by >>18847.



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